Tuesday, January 26, 2010

Whisky A Go Go, Sunnyvale, CA Summer 1965-January 1966

Elsewhere I had speculated about a nightclub in the San Jose suburb of Sunnyvale called Wayne Manor, a unique "Batman" themed dance club. This speculation lead to some amazing information about the choice of the Batman theme for the club, as the son of the owner explained that as an 11-year old who liked Batman comic books, he persuaded his father to remake the club into a sort of Batcave, complete with waitresses dressed as Bat Girl. With this inspiration, Ross and I have an interesting page on Wayne Manor, complete with a somewhat complete list of performers from the club for about a year (mid-1966 to mid-67).

The most startling piece of information we learned, however, was the prior incarnation of Wayne Manor: a Sunnyvale "franchise" of West Hollywood's famed Whisky A Go Go. Initially, I found this too unlikely to believe, but lo and behold, here is a photo from the nightclub's opening, with "Whisky A Go Go- of Sunnyvale" clearly visible above the bandstand. We had originally thought that the band was a combo called Sandy And The Vikings, but an infallible expert assured us included Bob Mosley on bass, two years before he joined Moby Grape. Mosley himself looked at the photo, and identified singer Joni Lyman, guitarist Joel Scott Hill and drummer Johnny Barbata, so this was in fact the Joel Scott Hill Trio, who were regulars in Northern California clubs at the time.

Apparently, the club only used the name Whisky A Go Go from mid-1965 until about February 1966, when it adopted the Batman theme and changed its name to Wayne Manor. Apparently the club advertised for Go Go dancers in the San Jose State student newspaper when school opened, but the exact opening date of the club remains uncertain. Since we have addressed the interesting nature of Wayne Manor, I am using this post to consider what this new information tells us about the history of the Whisky A Go Go.

Whisky A Go Go-Background

The West Hollywood Whisky A Go Go was founded by Elmer Valentine (1923-2008), a former Chicago policeman. The story goes that while in Chicago, Valentine ran nightclubs for "The Mob," and he was "on the take" from them as well. He left Chicago in the early 1960s because, apparently, he could not remain there. He was running a restaurant in Los Angeles, but took a trip to Paris where he went to a nightclub called The Whisky Au Go Go where young people were dancing, and he took the idea back to Hollywood.

The Whisky A Go Go opened at 8901 Sunset Boulevard on January 11, 1964 with Johnny Rivers as its featured attraction. The serendipitous innovation of the Whisky was to have pretty girls in fringed miniskirts dancing to the music on elevated "cages" above the audience. The Whisky A Go Go became a place to see and be seen, Johny Rivers became a huge star, and "Go Go" dancing became a nationwide craze, so much so that Smokey Robinson wrote a hit single about it ("Going To A Go-Go"). Imitators of the Whisky A Go Go sprung up on the West Coast and around the country, as exciting rock music from England and later America gave teenagers and young adults something fun to dance to.

As West Coast music exploded from 1966 onwards, the Whisky was well positioned to book legendary bands on their way up, most famously The Doors, but also including Buffalo Springfield, Jimi Hendrix, Steppenwolf  and numerous others. The Whisky had live music 7 nights a week, and only paid bands Union Scale (headliner or opening act), but it was such a prestige gig that every rising band wanted to play there. The rock market changed in the 1970s, but the ever-shrewd Valentine had opened the Roxy Theater and stayed at the center of the Hollywood rock scene.

The principal source for the history of The Whisky was Elmer Valentine himself. A legendary racounteur, he charmed reporters for decades, retailing his amazing stories of his pre-and-post Whisky carreer, right down to his various Mob connections (who had probably passed on by the time he talked about them). While there is no reason to think that Valentine was anything but truthful in his stories, like all good story tellers he emphasized the parts of the story he wanted to tell. In particular, as the post 1966 Whisky loomed larger in rock history, people asked Elmer about the likes of Jim Morrison, and fewer people inquired about the genesis of The Whisky A Go Go.

The Whisky A Go Go Revisited

The Whisky A Go Go in West Hollywood opened on January 11, 1964. Initially, its entertainment was designed on the Las Vegas model, open with live music 7 nights a week, generally featuring the same band. Initially the club featured Johnny Rivers, whose countryified rock made him a huge star by 1965. Rivers played the Whisky for all of 1964, and some of 1965. Other bands played too, but Rivers was the featured attraction. In April 1965, however, Valentine opened another club in West Hollywood called The Trip (at 8572 West Sunset). The Trip was oriented towards a younger clientele, and the featured acts changed with some regularity. The name acts at The Trip were a bigger attraction than The Trip itself. Over time, it appears that Valentine adopted The Trip's booking policy for The Whisky, and by mid-1966 The Trip had closed and The Whisky featured new name acts each week, sometimes every few days.

Throughout 1965, however, another entirely different business model for the Whisky seems to have been promoted, which promptly faded away, and the shrewd Valentine rarely or never referred to it and was largely never asked. In April 1965, the Whisky partnership (led by Valentine) opened a branch of the Whisky A Go Go in San Francisco, at 568 Sacramento. This club has mostly been forgotten, and I appear to be the only person doing research on it, although the Whisky site itself indicates it was definitely owned by the original Whisky partners. Over the years, there have been a variety of vague stories about Whisky A Go Go clubs in Atlanta, Denver, Minnesota and Washington, DC about which only snippets are known. According to Wikipedia, there was a Whisky A Go Go in Chicago (on Rush and Chestnut) that opened in 1958. I have never found it credible that Elmer Valentine, a connected Chicago cop who ran nightclubs for organized crime (per his own admission), knew nothing about this joint.

The discovery that there was a Sunnyvale Whisky A Go Go, that opened shortly after the San Francisco outpost, suggests an entirely different narrative. The Whisky was a very repeatable formula, and it sounds like Elmer Valentine and possibly other backers were interested in creating a chain of sorts, a kind of circuit where bands could play. Johnny Rivers success had proven that there was money to be made in the record industry, and since clubs could make money at the bar by selling drinks, it seemed like a good formula. Whatever the exact details of Joe Lewis's franchise, in mid-1965 a Sunnyvale Whisky that acted as a midway point of sorts between the San Francisco and Hollywood branches seemed like a good idea.

A Left Turn

It was not to be. The Whisky A Go Go caught the beginning of the sixties wave, but events moved very quickly. Formulaic dance clubs were rapidly replaced by self-contained rock bands who wrote their own songs and music became "art." The Hollywood Whisky, located at one of the prime wellsprings of talent, had no problem adjusting, but even in bland suburban Sunnyvale Go-Go dancing got old quickly. San Francisco Chronicle columnist Herb Caen reported on January 31, 1966--after the club had only been open for about six or seven months--"Are the go-gos going-going? Could be: Joe Lewis has tranformed his Sunnyvale Whisky a Go-Go into a Batman cave, called Wayne Manor."

We have found some correspondence between bands playing the SF Whisky and the Sunnyvale Wayne Manor, so it seems like they shared Talent Agents. 1964 style seemed very old by 1966, however, and whatever financial arrangements may have been in place with the Sunnyvale Whisky were superseded by its transformation into a Batcave, in its new incarnation.This incarnation too would pass on, as the club appeared to become a topless joint called Murphy's Station, and the building was ultimately torn down as part of the renovation of downtown Sunnyvale.

Our tale here, however, is a lost story of an attempt to franchise the Whisky A Go Go like McDonalds. It seems that a grand scheme was hatched that did not come to fruition, so Elmer Valentine simply left the story out of his subsequent Whisky sagas. My discovery of the Sunnyvale Whisky now leads me to wonder about other such places, and how they might have been connected to the Hollywood Whisky, as well as curiosity about what partners may have been interested in creating a talent circuit of Whisky A Go Gos.


  1. Apparently The Doors played at Whiskey in San Fran on February 4th 1967 with Peanut Butter Conspiracy, there is a Poster in a book called 'The Art of Rock' p. 189 plate 2.195 check it out....


  2. The Doors played the San Francisco Whisky A Go Go (at 568 Sacramento) on February 14-15, 1967. They were scheduled for two weeks, along with the Peanut Butter Conspiracy, but after thin crowds the first two days they split, leaving the Wildflower to take their place.

  3. Anyone out there attend a Doors concert at the Bold Knight in Sunnyvale?

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  5. Dobie Gray and the Persuaders played the Whisky a Go Go in L.A. Then went on to play the Whisky in San Francisco. Then they played at the Sunnyvale a Go Go. The name was chaged to the Sunnyvale a Go Go to avoid paying Elmer and his partners. Then the club bacame the Wayne Manor...

  6. the doors played the sunnyvale roller rink
    i think 1966 , also janis ,and big brother
    around the same time, it might have been a
    hells angels benifit...does anyone else remember

  7. slavin, The Doors played the Continental Ballroom in Santa Clara on July 9, 1967. Is that the show you are referring to? Big Brother also played there that Summer.

  8. You are correct Cory, it was the Continental. The Bold knight was my business at that time and I can assure you that the Doors never played for us. We couldn't afford them :)The Continental had been a roller skating rink and was huge. It could hold a crowd big enough to pay for the name acts. We had to stay with the local garage bands.

    I'll never forget the night the Chocolate Watchband opened for the Seeds at the Continental. The Watchband went onstage first and covered all the songs from the Seeds new album. The Seeds almost walked out. I would not have wanted to be the promoter that night!

  9. Mike, how long were you running the Bold Knight? A lot of interesting bands played there over the years. Do you know when the Bold Knight closed? I have seen flyers and listings for it as late as 68.

  10. Corry,

    You're asking me to remember back an awful long way and " if you remember the 60's, you weren't there." ;D

    My partner and I graduated from high school in '64 so we must have started it sometime in '65 and we ran it until sometime in '68. We did well until the San Francisco scene got so big and then we lost most of our audience to them.

    It was is a restaurant and we leased the banquet facility which holds about a 1000 ( a few more if the Sunnyvale PD wasn't looking). It remained "The Bold Knight" until just recently when it became an Indian restaurant and changed the name. I don't think anyone went in after us and ran a regular club.

    It was definitely a great place and time. There was a huge amount of talent coming up at that point. We had a great time while it lasted.

  11. Thanks for the interesting information. Do you recall a group called Weird Herald? Supposedly they may be releasing some long ago material, and what I heard sounded quite good. They had quite a live reputation, but it's all a bit of a foggy rumor, and I wonder if you recalled them playing the Bold Knight (located at 769 North Matilda in Sunnyvale, I believe, for anyone who wants to Google it).

  12. I don't recall a group by that name but you've now got me trying to remember the groups that played there regularly….

  13. Here's a few random dates I have for the Bold Knight, mostly from other research

    Feb 3, 1967 The Bold Knight, Sunnyvale E-Types/The Other Side

    Feb 10, 1967 The Bold Knight, Sunnyvale Chocolate Watch Band/Mourning Reign

    June 30, 1967 The Bold Knight, Sunnyvale New Delhi River Band/Adi Plain

    July 7, 1967 Bold Knight, Sunnyvale Count 5/E-Types

    Jan 5, 1968 The Bold Knight, Sunnyvale New Delhi/Blueberry Jam/Steve Jenkins Group

    July 9, 1968 The Bold Knight, Sunnyvale Quicksilver Messenger Service/Freedom Highway/Bogus Thunder
    According to a post on the Yahoo Cipollina group, Gary Duncan was not present. QMS played two complete sets without him, as a trio.

    July 13, 1968 Bold Knight, Sunnyvale Quicksilver Messenger Service/Freedom Highway/Congress of Wonders
    I doubt this was a separate show than the July 9 show, just an alternative date.

    July 20, 1968 The Bold Knight, Sunnyvale Sons of Champlin/Ace of Cups
    There is a flyer that circulates for this show.

    I hope this sparks a memory or two.

    1. Wow, you just restored in a bit of RAM in my brain. I saw Quicksilver at the Bold Knight the summer of '68, but with no known concert poster, no ticket stub, and friends with lesser memories than mine of those days, it was kind of lost. I did not remember that they were down to a trio for that show, but I always had the impression years later that they were not the same band (as good) as I had seen the year before. Jim Murray had left the band after the summer of '67, but assumed they were still the great QMS. The lack of Duncan would explain why I had this impression. Never saw another show at the Bold Knight and the Continental Ballroom had faded away as far as getting top talent. Had seen the Doors, the Dead, QSM, Big Brother, Steve Miller, and Moby Grape at the Continental -- all in 1967.

  14. Yep, that helps a lot

    Our first group was the Fugitives from Los Altos, Ca. They helped get the place started. I think Rusty Sabella went on to a professional music career. Don't know about Mike Walker, although I did run into him playing a club in Santa Cruz about 1974.

    I'm not sure if the Nomads from Palo Alto ever played the BK but they morphed into Wm. Penn and his Pals (Gregg Rolie was in the group) and they did play for us. Others include Mourning Reign, The Other Side, The Chocolate Watchband, Syndicate of Sound, Count Five, The Harbinger Complex, E-Types, Golliwogs (just before becoming CCR), Canned Heat (once), the Phoenix( a group that formed with some members of Wm Penn after Gregg went with Santana). I know there are more, I just have to clear the cobwebs.

    I'm surprised at some of the dates you have. I thought I remembered that The Other Side became the Watchband and I would have placed it in '66. Oh, well....

    I'll have to email my partner and get him in on this. He is more of detail person and might be able to add some more.

  15. Thank you for contributing, Mike. (I just comment here, so I just say that as a reader.) It's wonderful for those of us who weren't there to learn more and hopefully fun for you to try to piece it back together, as well!

  16. Thanks JGMF, I'm having a great time. Been all over this blog since I discovered it yesterday and have to say that Corry is dong a really great job. I am finding some things worthy of comment and plan on doing so as time permits.

  17. Looking forward to reading more. It's addicting reading and sharing! And I agree that Corry and his partner Yellow Shark do amazing work.

  18. Mike--are you, by any chance, 1/2 of M & M Productions?? If so, I have some history at the rink--rick puncochar

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  20. UnknownJanuary 27, 2014 at 11:12 PM

    I went to the SF Whiskey a few times....the one band I remember seeing there was JIM DOVAL & THE GAUCHOS....I may have seen JOHNNY RIVERS or TRINI LOPEZ there too....my friend Mike and I went there for those shows...he recalls it...I don

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  22. Just finished this thread..one thing for certain, the Other Side did not become Chocolate Watchband.

    1. Well, there were social connections between the Other Side and The Chocolate Watch Band (which the Bold Knight promoter well knew).

      Did you see any of the shows in the South Bay at the time?

  23. I was Elmer Valentine's secretary from 1971-1983. He took me to the location of the Whisky a GoGo in San Francisco well after it closed (due to fire and a falling out with the partner who wanted sole ownership of that location). He took over Hollywood and left San Francisco to the other guy. He never mentioned a Sunnyvale location or the name Joe Lewis in the many many years that we worked together in the same office.

    1. Thanks Dee Dee. The Sunnyvale seems to have had no connection with the Hollywood outlet except for the name. Just one of many mysteries about various Whisky A Go Go joints in Denver, Atlanta, Georgetown, Minneapolis and so on.

    2. Only the SF outlet seems to have been "authorized" (to use the modern term). Maybe someone other than Elmer had a license on the name? I have always wondered